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ruapache
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Does anyone know the horsepower ratings on the 650, 700, 750 prairies?
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outlandish AWF Admin 
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700 prairie stock- just under 36 hp at the rear wheels http://www.highlifter.com/performance/dynorun_detail.php3?detail=516 650 stock- about 31 1/2 hp http://www.highlifter.com/performance/dynorun_detail.php3?detail=515 Last edited on Sat Nov 19th, 2005 12:26 am by outlandish ____________________  ***AWF Now Makes Custom Decals *** |
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ruapache
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Thanks outlandish.
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CriticalMass Member
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Dont mean to cut in , but that was some very good info. Are there any numbers on the 750BF?
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OSOKILL Admin Assist/ Enforcer 
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CriticalMass wrote: Dont mean to cut in , but that was some very good info. Are there any numbers on the 750BF?Sorry about letting this go unanswered for a month but what sorta numbers were you looking for
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bitpuss 
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so, the 700 hundred I sold recently is about half the horse power than our beloved 800's!!! it seems true cuz I can start from a stop and let the 700 get a full throttle head start and still beat it it in a 1/4 mile. If we both start at stop and go I just smoke it
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outlandish AWF Admin
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No I wouldn't say half the hp.That was measured at the rear wheels and the BRP's 62 hp is measured at the crank. I'd venture a guess of a high 40's or low 50's rear wheel hp on the Bomb
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logana Member
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47.2 hp for the 650i it says it on the title
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outlandish AWF Admin
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that would be crank horsepower if I'm not mistaken
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logana Member
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yeah i am sure it is, not sure what the rear wheel hp is. But i now its more than the 700 becuase i have raced them before the one had a moose module in it and i can beat him off the line.
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cc1999 Mod 
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I have a 650 that test about 28 RWHP stock and both 700's we have had were 32 RWHP stock. If I were to take a stab at it the BF 750 would come in around 37 RWHP.
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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OSOKILL Admin Assist/ Enforcer
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37 might be just a little high. BRP says the 800 is about 39.5 at the rear wheels. when dyno'd thats what mine was bone stock.
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cc1999 Mod
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Both of my Outy's dynoed bone stock at 44 RWHP, my older Outy with the Pipe dynoed at 49 Hp with the HMF and Dobeck.
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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cc1999 Mod
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OSOKIL, what kind of tires did you use in your testing?
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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OSOKILL Admin Assist/ Enforcer
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Stock XT tires, on one of those True Horse power Dyno's
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cc1999 Mod
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The reason I asked was I was thinking that was likely the case, You are probably getting some significant wheel slippage on the dyno drum with the tires that come on the XT. A few years back when we first bilt my BB 800 Twin peaks motor we dynoed the machine and only gained about 6hp when compared to my stock motor Twin Peaks 700. It was the Bighorns that were causing the problem, We had used a OEM type tires with the soft compound they seemed to work allot better when testing the others and used the Bighorns when testing the new project 800 twin peaks because thats what I had on it when they were working on it, The bighorns I believe have a similar type compound to that used on the XT model Outy's and would in effect lower your numbers in a similar fashion to the way way the bighorns effected mine, likely do to slippage. After that we decided to go ahead and get some dyno wheels made up and retest not only the new 800 bb motor but also the other stock motor to see the difference in a equal comparison. That changed everything the stock motor quad improved about 1-2 hp not a big deal but the 6hp difference we had before changed dramatically when we pulled the bighorns and test it with these dyno tires(car tires). We went from a 6-7hp difference to a 15hp difference. The tires you see here in this pic are the same tires we test all of our machines with now. Even the outys since we got lucky and the Outy and the prairie/twin peaks all have the same bolt patterns.  The one thing I have noticed over the past few years is the only thing that seems consistent about wheel dyno's and quads is that there are so many variables that there is nothing contestant. What we are doing by using the same tires on all of our machines is eliminating as much inconsistency as possible and looking at the differences between the machines and tuning them on the dyno is its real asset anyway but for comparison I think we are getting pretty accurate numbers that seem to show out in the real world.
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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OSOKILL Admin Assist/ Enforcer
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on the stock test the stock tires were fine but when adding the mods it started slipping. and it smoked up the tires when he put on the dual exhaust. now he is using a sport quad tire that he uses to test all the other bikes with. he just had to mill the 800's lug pattern in to it. good info though Ill pass this on to him
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cc1999 Mod
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I think they may have been slipping a little even when it was stock, just based on how large the variance from the both of mine stock were 44.15 and 43.95 comparing to your stock number of 37 you mentioned earlier. We started to do that to a set of dyno tires they had there in the shop but the largest ones my guys had were only 22" and I was afraid it would wind out to fast to take a good reading since the clutching was setup for 25" tires. Last edited on Tue Apr 18th, 2006 10:03 pm by cc1999 ____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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OSOKILL Admin Assist/ Enforcer
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OSOKILL wrote: 37 might be just a little high. BRP says the 800 is about 39.5 at the rear wheels. when dyno'd thats what mine was bone stock. I said .. to quote myself LOLOL ... "37 might be a little high." That was for BF 750. the 37 was yer guess for what the BF was. I have compared my stock 39.5 numbers with others and it is the average number for 7 bikes on different dynos so far ranging from 39 to 40 HP.
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cc1999 Mod
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Sorry I just scrolled up and glanced at that post to quick and grabbed the wrong number off it. the main difference must be in the tires. The last machine I had tested with nobby tires was my Sportsman 800 and I remmeber at the time there were 3 other guys around the country that had tested theres and we were all about the same around 36-38 as I recall. That was also why that 39-40 number just seemed off to me. Were any of the 7 non XT units?
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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OSOKILL Admin Assist/ Enforcer
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Im not positive but I would think so. I can get ahold of em and ask if you really want to know.
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cc1999 Mod
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Its no big deal, I was just wondering. I belong to 5 other forums and have seen numbers reported from 38-46 rwhp on stock 800's. I just like knowing why and how things work the way they do. I am sure some are just the differnce in BP, altitudes, temps ect, ect, and others are just differnces in things like tires and dyno operators also come into play.
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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