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cc1999 Mod 
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I just got my November issue of Dirt Wheels and in it there is a really good article about Epic Racings 80hp, 90mph desert racing Outy. The Tag line on the article is "The World's fastest utility quad?" Well in the article it is mentioned that there were 8 changes made to the 07 Outy, based on R&D from factory race teams around the country, like Epics desert race team. The article did not mention what the changes were, just that there were 8 or more changes made, based off racing R&D. Does anyone know what changes they are talking about? Last edited on Fri Sep 15th, 2006 07:01 am by cc1999 ____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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Bomb800xt
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Well, I am not really sure about the exact changes but..........from what I have heard on this forum and others is that there is somewhat of a delay with the visco-lok before it engages. On my 2007.....with the stock tires.....I have to say that I do not have to really wait for the visco-lok to engage. I mean it is pretty much instantaneous, all 4 wheels digging and starting to dig at the same time. I noticed this when I was pulling out some fence posts recently. Posts were on the side of a limestone driveway.................with me rigged up and pulling across it. All 4 wheels started pulling at the same time.................everytime. Last edited on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 03:04 am by Bomb800xt ____________________ Green 07' Outlander 800 XT Team Outty Member #175 Stainless Steel Shift Knob Modified Ricochet skids DEI/ThermoTec Radiant heat barrier Rear shorties installed in the front Dalton PRO clutch ***Working on a Rad. fan mod*** |
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kraked
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my 06 does the same.Dont know what the prob is
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MtnOuty Deputy Fyfe...In for Life 
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When shifting into 4wd I was under the impression the quad went into 3wd and only went into 4wd if the front drive wheel lost traction. Is everyone agreed that is how the viscolok works? This is all discussed in the 'sticky topics' forum. Last edited on Sat Sep 16th, 2006 04:09 am by MtnOuty ____________________ Wear a patch like my avatar to hospital emergency room, clears it out fast. |
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kraked
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well mine is real quick, not instant i guess. Gotta be less than 1 turn
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Bomb800xt
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I know one thing that they didn't change was the design on the CVT cover. They all warp eventually.
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Yellxt Member
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One small change is the battery strap is stronger and is fastened at the front. No longer have to fight with it or say bad words to get it on.
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MtnOuty Deputy Fyfe...In for Life
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1999 - speaking of battery straps above, and problems with loose battery conn'ns, that was you wasn't it?, do you carry a spare battery? I'm thinking of sticking an extra with a pigtail charger wire into the rear storage compartment, hooked up in parallel, as discussed on a thread awhile back.
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cc1999 Mod
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Yellxt wrote: One small change is the battery strap is stronger and is fastened at the front. No longer have to fight with it or say bad words to get it on. So what was changed, you mention the strap is fastened to the front, I am picturing it based on your description as being about the same as it is on the 06' but the front strap is permanently hooked so it can't come off and cause all the problems like the on eon the 06' does. Also by stronger so you mean a thicker strap than the 06'? That would be great if they got that G#(*%(* D#QW$ strap fixed. Thats great news . It should me I can get the 07' parts and fix mine up with them.
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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cc1999 Mod
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MtnOuty wrote: 1999 - speaking of battery straps above, and problems with loose battery conn'ns, that was you wasn't it?, do you carry a spare battery? Ya its happened twice to me, the first time it took multiple trips to the dealer and over two months of wild running issues before we found the problem. I do not carry a spare battery, I am afraid that if not really, really well secured you could end up with a real, real bad acid related mess on your hands. I would also have some reservations about altering any of the electrical system, just based on the problem I had with a very slight voltage flux from a cable that was still a little more than hand tight. The electronic system would seem to be in my experience, a very, very sensitive one.
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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Kevin Z
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The changes they are refering to are for the Renegade All of you are confusing 4 wheel drive with a front locker. When you put the Outlander on 4x4, all four wheels are driven. But the front has a differential because the wheels travel different distance when turning. When one wheel looses traction and slips, the visco lock progressivly kicks in a limited slip differential, all the way to a full lock. The delay to a full lock is intentional. The progressive application of power improves the handling of the machine dramatically.
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cc1999 Mod
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I was looking at the parts break down for the 07' and compared the part numbers on the battery strap, and discovered that BRP list the same part number in 06' as they are in 07'. Yellxt, did you see this on a machine or something? I was looking into trying to get the improved components but no luck finding new part numbers.
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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MtnOuty Deputy Fyfe...In for Life
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kevin z, the outy is in 3 wd when 4wd is first engaged, and most of the time after that. Go read the sticky thread, see who's confused.
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Kevin Z
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MtnOuty wrote: kevin z, the outy is in 3 wd when 4wd is first engaged, and most of the time after that. Go read the sticky thread, see who's confused. As long as both wheels have traction, they are being driven. The problem with a differential is it will spin the tire that breaks loose. That's where a limited slip or locker comes in. There is no such thing as three wheel drive. Like I said, there all driven. I really want you say you don't understand differentials, but that would be rude. 
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Yellxt Member
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CC1999, Sold my 06 XT and purchased a 07 Max. Took the battery out to install my battery tender pigtail. The strap seemed a little more narrow, but thicker. Not sure how the strap is secured at the front, (never looked, may have spoke out of turn), but it never came off no matter how much I snatched it around. Sorry for the delayed response. Just came in from work.
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MtnOuty Deputy Fyfe...In for Life
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Kevin Z wrote: MtnOuty wrote:Well, I can be educated, but you will always be a smart a$$.kevin z, the outy is in 3 wd when 4wd is first engaged, and most of the time after that. Go read the sticky thread, see who's confused.
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JimJa43 Member
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Kevin, Technically you are correct, but from a practical standpoint so are those espousing the 3-wheel drive formula. And you are a smart guy so you know exactly what's being said here. It's really about torque, not power per sea. In a situation where the front wheels are spinning and the vehicle is not moving, torque is applied to both front wheels equally and the wheel with the LEAST traction determines the amount applied to the opposite front wheel which receives the SAME amount of torque as the wheel with the LEAST traction. Presumably the wheel with the least torque is not getting enough POWER to the ground IOT move the vehicle. Posi-traction, excuse me, Visco-Lok, is nothing more than a limited slip which under the above situation gradually raises the torque to BOTH front wheels until the wheel with the GREATER traction begins to either spin or move the vehicle. With a direct connection between the front and rear axles, and the rear axle locked, which they all are save for Polaris' turf mode for their side-by-side model, torque is split between the front and the rear. So everyone is right here. Kevin, you are of course technically correct, but from a practical standpoint, it really is 3-wheel drive since the torque is applied to the wheel with the least amount of traction, which will not provide the power required to get the job done. But you know that... Still, I'd like engagement to happen quicker. It seems a little dialed down for my tastes. And those of you with bigger tires, well, it's worse for you.
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cc1999 Mod
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 Jim, I think thats the best explantion of the visclock system yet. I don't even try to explain it, other than it works automaticaly and has been better for me in that since, because by the time I would think to pull the lever on the Kawi's it was generaly to late. Good job Jim.
____________________ Current Quads: 2009 Outlander Black 800R XT 2009 Sportsman 850 XP EPS Stealth Black "Ordered" Due in NOV/DEC 2008 Polaris Sportsman 800 X2 LE Stealth Black, Bumpers, handguards, 26" Bighorns, on Black OEM cast alum rims, side bags, and one big ole ice chest. 2006 Outlander 840 RED, Woods pipe, Cowtown Clutch work, Diamond G/Chapman heads/ Diamond G Cams / Power Commander III, Renegade seperate brakes, XT hand guards, 26" Bighorn Radials on Black type 7 rims. Recent Past Quads: 2008 ThunderCat 1000,2006 Diamond G Outy 800,2008 Honda White Rincon 680 EFI,2008 Polaris 800 RZR,2007 Can-am Renegade 800,2006 Outlander 800 XT , 2006 Outlander MAX 800,2005 Polaris 800 Sportsman |
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MtnOuty Deputy Fyfe...In for Life
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ditto
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outlandish AWF Admin 
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JimJa43, good explanation. I have added it to the review HERE BTW I found that pic on the web, hope it's right.
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Buster Member
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Guys we are over in the uk and are wanting to fit a spare battery how does it charge ?? may be a blonde question
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CrowTRobot Member
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I believe the article specificly says there were 8 changes to the Outlander, not Renegade. When I bought mine the dealer mentioned a few changes to me that had been made from the 06's. The 07's have a new voltage regulator design to help keep mud and water from getting in (it might be the rear fuses but I think it is the VR). They have new bushings on the rear TTI bars because the 06's had a problem there. Brighter headlights is another one. The XT's have the remote for the winch now. New rims on the XT's would be another change but I don't know if that is one of th 8. There is probably 4 more changes done to thee 07 outlanders.
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