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 Posted: Sat Jan 6th, 2007 07:33 pm
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 been ATVing for about a year, mainly trails, Rocks, Bush etc....Ive just found some trail with some good mud bogs, im eager to give it a go but, to be honest, im not sure what Gear etc i should be in or what technique to use,,,can you help.

i want it in 4 wheel drive...that much i know  :)

Do i need it in High or Low Grear ?

Do i pin the throttle from start to finish ?

For my ACat 650 do i put the Diff Lock on ?

Anything different between the technique for the Bomb vs the AC ?

 



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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2007 12:02 am
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 4WD is a must, low gear is never a bad idea especially if it is some deep thick stuff. The throttle mostly depends on how long and deep the mud is. If you don't need to pin the entire way then don't. If you give more gas then you need, you may spin yourself down to the frame and get hung up. Never had a diff lock so I can't help you with that one.



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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2007 06:31 am
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 Hi Rightsaidfred. I know a lot about going through mud. The first thing you need to do is make sure you know about how deep the mudhole is. A good way of doing this is doing a "Folgers Rock Test." Grab a few rocks that are around 4 inches in diameter. Then, throw them in different spots: Start, middle, and the end of the mudhole. Notice the height of the splash; If it is about a foot high, it is usually a foot deep..maybe a little deeper. If the splash is water, it probably will be deep, and if it is mud, it probably won't be as deep. Also, if you can't hear the rock hit the bottom of the mudhole, it is probably 2 feet or deeper. Finally, go through it once slowly with your quad, and if you make it, then you know it is safe to go through it faster. (laugh all you want, Oso, this method works if it is a new mud hole)

As for gearing, it depends on the mud. If it is water, you can usually use a higher gear. If it is soup, a middle gear will work  fine. If it is that thick, black, swampy mud, a low gear is best.

And about a diff lock, I don't think you would need one unless there are obstacles in the mud (rocks or logs).

You can followthis advice, or you can do what most people do: Hammer the throttle, and pray you'll make it to the other side.:roflao:

Hope this helps!:)



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 Posted: Sun Jan 7th, 2007 06:50 am
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There are actually quite a few tricks one can use to make it through big, deep, nasty mudholes. It’s certainly not as easy as just sitting back and hitting the thumb throttle and hoping for the best. With that kind of an attitude, you’ll probably get stuck!
  •  If you have a differential lock, lock it in before you start into the hole. If you are half through and find you need it, it's already done. One less thing to worry about while in the mud.
  • Most mudholes are best handled in first gear (low range on automaticss), unless your quad has a super-low first gear that would cut down too much on your momentum.



  • One of the tricks to keeping water out of the carb in real deep mudholes is to get your weight back on the seat to keep the air intake (which on most quads is up under the gas tank or handlebars) above the water line.



  • If it gets so deep that the quad begins to float, stay on the throttle and try not to let the engine stop since that will allow water to get into all the vent hoses. Keep the throttle pinned, pull the front end above water, and let all four tires search for traction.



  • If you feel the tires losing traction in a shallower situation, stand up and rock the quad back and forth, looking for something the tires can get ahold of for traction concentrating on keeping the momentum going forward. Wiggling the bars can also help the front wheels find more solid ground.



  • Ride loose in the mud. In other words, let the quad twitch and wiggle as you stay on the power as it searches for traction. Don’t try to fight it by staying on a perfect line, because you’ll lose momentum.



  • As soon as you start getting into muddy ruts, rock the quad back and forth to keep the wheels driving.



  • If you happen to get stuck, don’t make it worse by spinning the tires and burying the quad even deeper. Get someone to help you pull the rear end up and over to find more traction or get someone to winch you out. Sometimes you can throttle it out by walking alongside of it.



  • As you follow other riders on the same line through a mud section, the line will actually deteriorate from the spinning tires, increasing your chances of getting stuck. Look for another line or position yourself near the front of the pack.



  • Some riders of automatic shifting quads add  homemade extensions (snorkles) to the transmission vent tubes. They usually route it up underneath the handlebars. Otherwise, if the machine stalls in the deep water, water rushes into the belt-drive through the stock vent tube.



  • Silicone or coat your spark plug cap with electrolyte grease to make it waterproof.



  • If your quad has drum brakes, they will need regular cleaning if you ride in mud and water often.



  • On shaft-drive quads, occasionally check the gear oil in the front and rear differential for any signs of water contamination (a milky color is a sure sign).



  • To keep mud from sticking to your quad, spray the fenders and frame liberally with a lubricant (the one-step tire cleaners also work). A way to keep mud from building up inside the wheels is to stick a circular piece of foam inside.




  • If your quad is water-cooled, carefully clean the radiator after each ride. Some racers will tape up the front bumper and build shields around the radiator shrouds to keep mud from getting into the cooling system and front-end components.



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 Thanks alot Guys , I apprecaite the Advice.



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 Folgers:

The first thing you need to do is make sure you know about how deep the mudhole is. A good way of doing this is doing a "Folgers Rock Test." Grab a few rocks that are around 4 inches in diameter. Then, throw them in different spots: Start, middle, and the end of the mudhole. Notice the height of the splash; If it is about a foot high, it is usually a foot deep..maybe a little deeper. If the splash is water, it probably will be deep, and if it is mud, it probably won't be as deep. Also, if you can't hear the rock hit the bottom of the mudhole, it is probably 2 feet or deeper. Finally, go through it once slowly with your quad, and if you make it, then you know it is safe to go through it faster.

Folgers the very best way to tell how deep it is, is to send your buddy through first LOL:lolol:



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 Folgers you wouldn't have to go balls to the walls if you would stop throwing rocks in the damn holes.:pod::roflao::ban::lololol:



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 cementhead1 wrote: Folgers you wouldn't have to go balls to the walls if you would stop throwing rocks in the damn holes.:pod::roflao::ban::lololol:
:clp::lolol::roflmao::roflao::thm:



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 oh come on folks the ... Krose eyes and yell BONZAI .. method sounds like it would be fun to watch.....now where are those mud riding videos that will let em see all that first hand??? hmm ...OHHH yeah here they are   Scroll down and look for the ones labled mud 



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 Here's a good one from a couple years back LINK



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 outlandish wrote: Here's a good one from a couple years back LINK
I think if I went to Mud Creek Off-Road Park, I would never want to leave.:dan:



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