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Equus
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Can I fit a quad onto a quad? Does anyone out there own a 05 or 06 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab and an Outlander Max? If not please read on and help me out. According the specs on the Bambardier/CanAm website, the length and width of the Outlander 800 Max XT is: 94” (length) X 46” (width). I’ll be getting the Outlander shortly, but I must decide on a truck now. I’m considering 05 Dodge Dakota Quad Cab, and its bed size is: 64.9” (length) X 45.2” (width- wheelwell to wheelwell). Here are my questions: 1. Outlander’s width: a) How accurate is the website’s info of 46" width? b) Where is the widest point? Is it from outside of tire-to-tire, or is it from fender-to-fender? If it’s from tire-to-tire, since I’m only .8’’ narrow between the wheelwells, it’ll probably still fit with the front tires squeezed (I’m planning on keeping the stock tires), but would it still fit with the bedliner, since adding the bedliner will take some space? If the measurement is from fender to fender, is the widest point on the Outlander from top part of the fender (above the wheels) or the bottom (by the foot rest). Even if the widest point is from foot rest-to-foot rest, judging from the many pictures I saw on the internet, the foot rest part would be positioned behind the bed’s wheelwells when loaded. Wouldn’t it? Or is the bottom of the foot rest actually higher than the top of the bed’s wheelwells? If so, I wouldn't have to worry about it 2. Outlander’s length: The Dakota Quad Cab’s useable length (with the tailgate open) is approximately 82.5” (64.9” of the bed’s actual length + 17.6” of the height of the tailgate). Since the Outlander Max’s length is 94” I’m roughly 11.5” short. Obviously the back end of the Outlander is going to stick out that much, but is the 82.5” of available length space going to be enough to load the Outlander safely with the back wheels far enough inside the edge of the tailgate? I apologize for the lengthiness of this posting, but the reason for considering buying the Dakota is to lug around the Outlander. I know I could just buy a full-size pickup, but I’m currently in Korea where the gas price is about 2.5 times the price back home in the U.S. Speaking of which, how much gas would I need to ride the Outlander for about, oh… say 5-6 hours out on hard trails with moderate hills. I’m not planning on doing any serious mud riding. Thanks for reading through my lengthy questions, and I’d appreciate any info you can provide.
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WOW, that had to take a while to type,lol. I dont have a definate answer for you, but I have an opinion if it will help.I own a quad cab fullsize ram and a polaris 700 sportsman, so I have to run with the tailgate down with the quad in the back. The wife has a ext cab dakota, same thing, tailgate down. I personally dont like running with the gate down, but if I was in your shoes, I would go for the dakota and try to get a trailer, or if you dont want the trailer, go fullsize ram. Just my opinion, hope its some help.
____________________ 02 Polaris Sportsman 700 01 quadcab dodge ram When in doubt, STAND ON IT! 10 feet tall and BULLETPROOF! |
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C4 Max
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I have seen guys put a sheet of 3/4 plywood down first to spread the weight more evenly. I wouldn't put too much trust in the tailgate cables. A buddy of mine bought a cheap trailer from harbor freight to pull his 400 max behind a diesel rabbit. Fits perfect and works for him.
____________________ 06 Outlander Max 400 (Mostly mine) 06 DS 250 (Mostly the brides) 06 DS90 (Mostly for the littlins) Team Outty 400 #9 |
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Equus
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The ever increasing gas price here and the higher insurance for the full-size pick up... Ya, I'll go with the Dakota. Thanks for the info.
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rankrank1
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My previous truck was a 2001 Chevy Silverado 6.5 foot fleetside bed. I have a 400 Max XT. The Quad would easily fit with the tailgate down and was easy to ride into the the bed as there was even extra length. I used a hitch extender to extend my hitch back about 14" and was still able to tow my vintage 1975 Hi-Lo camper with the tailgate down without problems (my old camper is not a tent type camper, it is rather heavy - 3500 lbs.) Another option, if I had wanted to avoid using the hitch extender, would have been to remove the tailgate and fabricated some type of shim to rest on top of the bumper in order to bring it up even with the bed floor. However loading with the tailgate removed would have been more difficult because there would not have been any extra bed length (i.e. rear wheels will rest directly above bumper on shim). As for trucks: Dodges are notoriously the worst when it comes to fuel economy, except for their Cummins diesel which is one of the best. The above Chevy truck was full size but with a 4.3 V-6 - it did pretty well on Gas while capably hauling some impressive loads. Last edited on Sat Jun 3rd, 2006 04:12 am by rankrank1 ____________________ Current Ride: Red 2005 BRP Outlander Max 400 XT Prior rides: 1996 350 Yamaha Wolverine 4x4, 1992 Suzuki 230 Quadrunner 2x4, 1992 CR500, 1985 CR250, 1984 YZ125, 1981 YZ125, 1979 ATC 110 3 wheeler, 1972 TS125, 197? Chibi 58cc mini. |
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outlandish
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Louisiana Guard Dog..... http://laguarddog.com
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rankrank1
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The Louisiana Guard Dog is another good recommendation. However, I chose not to use it for my application because I wanted to use the shortest hitch extension that I could get by with. My truck was an extended cab 1/2 ton (with a 4.3 V6) and my trailer is relatively heavy and has lots of tongue weight. So I wanted to keep the "lever effect" as short as possible. The hitch extender I used was a cheap one from Harbor Freight. It was originally 14" but I shortened it some and reinforced it with some extra steel (for peace of mind due to my trailer's heavy tongue weight - it uses torsion bars). It worked well. Additionally, the LA Guard Dog takes up what was valuable cargo area for me. I used the area right behind the quads hitch ball and between the Quads wheel wells for my gas cans - it was the only place standard size gas cans would fit. If you have the tall narrow "old jeep style" gas cans they will just fit to the sides of the bed between the wheels of the quad and the bed sides on a full size truck. I doubt that they would fit there on a Dakata size truck though. (I utilized this side area for my "jeep style" water cans for camping) Last edited on Sat Jun 3rd, 2006 04:16 pm by rankrank1 ____________________ Current Ride: Red 2005 BRP Outlander Max 400 XT Prior rides: 1996 350 Yamaha Wolverine 4x4, 1992 Suzuki 230 Quadrunner 2x4, 1992 CR500, 1985 CR250, 1984 YZ125, 1981 YZ125, 1979 ATC 110 3 wheeler, 1972 TS125, 197? Chibi 58cc mini. |
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Equus
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If I do pull a trailer while using the Guard Dog, it would just be a light one, so the Guard Dog I think is a great idea. Since the back wheels of the Outlander Max would be sitting so close to the edge of the tailgate of the Dakota, I had wondered how much load the tailgate cable could safely handle. I feel more assured now after watching the video on the GD's website, which notes the fact that most of the ATV's load would be put on the hitch, not on the tailgate. Although I can't clearly see in the picture, I'm assuming there must be some way to adjust the height of the vertical metal bar of the GD to meet the height of the ATV and lift the ATV's weight off the tailgate a little... Well, that takes care of the length issue, and as for the width concerns I had, since madfabricator indicated that the Polaris Sportsman 700, which is 2" wider than the Outlander according to their websites' specs, can be loaded onto his wife's Dakota, I believe my problems are solved. Great forum, great website!!!
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outlandish
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here is a pic of mine another  this is an older one. the new ones are a little different. I love mine and use it all the time
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Equus
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Cool!
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